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Thursday, 2 December 2010

Outside the Magic Circle


Dominic Scarborough has written an article for Catholic World Report Outside the Magic Circle which is subtitled "Tension builds between the Bishops' Conference of England and Wales and orthodox Catholics." He looks at the way in which the BCEW presents a common front on every issue, the ostracism of Bishop O'Donoghue, the Soho Masses, the designation of "Taliban Catholics", and the response to Summorum Pontificum. It is an interesting article in that we all know this stuff but having it set out clearly in Catholic World Report is a step forward.

12 comments:

JamesP said...

Careful...

Everybody knows about the tensions in Blackfen. No doubt some time away would be a good idea?

Fr Finigan will be back soon... did I say soon? He's gone to the states to study for a year or five... Who can say?

Auricularis said...

The reason why England and Wales has the bishops it does today is down to one man: Archbishop Faustino Munoz - appointed by the late JP II as papal nuncio to Great Britain.

And the Holy Father (as much as I respect his office) has made a monumental blunder of choosing Nichols as Archbishop of Westminster. It's business as usual in the post conciliar church of England and Wales.

Zephyrinus said...

The present Members of the BCEW know full well that their days are numbered. They are not complete fools. They can see that they are fast becoming an irrelevance and that the tide of Catholic life in England and Wales is, thank God, leaving them behind.

Author said...

While I agree with much of the article you quote, I am distressed to see Archbishop Worlock, whom I knew from my early childhood on, so abused as a pivotal figure in the awfulness of the British Catholic Church. He seems to me to have been very misunderstood by the intellectual pygmies, such as most of the present hierarchies.

Patricia Phillips said...

Unless we try each and every possible avenue to bring these scandals to Rome's attention, then we can't complain when nothing happens. I have had responses to information sent to Curial depts in Rome, but this doesn't always happen. Your letter/e-mail can make a difference. Please e-mail Dominic's brilliant article:- http://catholicworldreport.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=223:outside-the-magic-circle&catid=53:cwr2010&Itemid=70 to these addresses: CDF - cdf@cfaith.va Pope's office:- benedictxvi@vatican.va or print it off and post it to:

His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI
Apostolic Palace
Via del Pelegrino
Citta del Vaticano 00120

His Eminence William Cardinal Levada
Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith
Piazza del S. Uffizio, 11
00120 Vatican City State
Europe

If you don't, then please don't whine when 'Magic Circle' decisions adversely affect you. Thanks, Father for posting on this.

fidelisjoff said...

One of the great sorrows of our time is the institutional bullying and persecution of faithful Catholic souls by those in seats of power in the very institutions faithful souls have saught to serve i.e. "Catholic" schools, charities and agencies of the BCEW. We live in a time of great moral corruption within Christ's Church in England and Wales. There is a great need of renewal, for which Pope Benedict visited his flock!

jdgm said...

Scarborough’s article is a profound analysis of the crisis in the Church in E & W and elsewhere, and it is very worrying - perhaps most so when he questions how long this can continue without some public fracture.

The majority of the bishops appear to conform to that, now discredited, Relativistic movement of Reform dating from the post-Vatican II period, which Newman warned about as far back as 1879. The result has been a collapse of indigenous Catholicism, because modern Catholics are no longer taught their Faith and have little resistance to Secular ideas and thinking.

Pope Benedict in March 08 said “Secularism is destroying the Church from within, even at the level of the Hierarchy”. I think the bishops should seriously consider if this remark applies to them.

It may well be that, as is suggested, it will be the laity and the clergy who will save the Church, for saved it surely will be.The despairing “mainstream“ Catholic parents, the new movements and perhaps even the blogosphere.

But if so, there will be nothing new in this. Remember the 4th century and the Arian Heresy?

L'Innominato said...

The Church has problems, sure.

But this infighting will make them worse, not better.

Sorry.

Crouchback said...

Auricularis @ 12/02/2010 3:16 PM....

and... jdgm....

The Bishops Priests and Laity need a crash course in the Traditional Mass.

There is so much hostility to the Mass mainly because so many have pinned their colours to the mast of Vatican II.....that tide has gone out.....and as Warren Buffett famously observes.....We can all see who's swimming without their swimming togs...???

Archbishop Worlock went to Vatican II as a conservative, seen the way the wind was blowing.....and hey presto.....he became a Liberal.....and thousands of erstwhile conservative Priests, who up to that point had never seen anything wrong with the Mass, all of a sudden became raging seekers after "Youth" and novelty....thus we ended up with the ridiculous mass that can be found in every parish in the land......

This must Stop.....the quicker the better......and any feet dragging priests should be quietly asked to "consider their options".....

The situation is that serious....

shold31019 said...

You poor victims.

Crouchback said...

L'Innominato......

Ye..ee..sss...

In fighting is never a pretty sight unfortunately we all do it to some extent in our lives.

But once "The field is Won"....and the Traditionalists have surely..."Won the argument" .....the rest should readjust to the realities of the grave situation and stop mopping after failed policies.

If they don't.....then they bring even more scandal on the Church....they become sowers of discord.....Archbishop Lefebvre might be charged "As a very difficult man" as the present Pope once referred to him, I seem to recall. But the Archbishop was defending things that had worked and had been considered normal by every one....for centuries past. He was reacting against things that weren't "just new".....they were revolutionary.

That was then, this is now, the "new" and "revolutionary" things have been proven ....NOT TO WORK, and are positively harmful to the church. Witness the destruction of just about every religious order in these Islands...???

If there were to be for instance a Society of Pope Paul VI....determined to have their way, with a concentrated attempt to keep alive the already stinking corpse of the Vatican II church....that would indeed be a fresh outbreak of disastrous in-fighting for no gain what so ever.

The talks with the Vatican and the Society of St Pius X will dot some I's and cross some Tee's that are required in the Documents of Vatican II......but on the ground, in the Parishes we need to see the Bishops restoring the Traditional Mass in every parish....getting the priests to own up to their parishioners were it all went wrong...and then we start re-building.....

The future is bright.....IF.....we do this....

If we don't.....then them that don't deserve to be left behind....

It's what Jesus would do....???

Isn't it....????

Only a big softie would demur

Edward P. Walton said...

It all seems like history repeating. Remember the Bishop of Rochester.

We need a new Pilgrimage of Grace.

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